18 February 2021 | Science conversation
Vismita Gupta-Smith:
Hello and welcome to Science
in 5. I’m Vismita Gupta-Smith and this
is WHO's conversations in science. We are continuing our conversation about the
COVID-19 vaccines and explaining the science and evidence behind it is WHO's
Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan. Soumya, let's talk about the vaccine
dosage. What is WHO's recommendation for how much time there should be between
the two doses? And what if I can't make it to my second dose? Or what if I miss my second dose altogether?
Dr. Soumya Swaminathan:
This is an important question.
There are so many vaccines now under development and each of them is being
given at slightly different dosing schedules. Most of the vaccines that are
being developed need at least two doses, but there are some single dose vaccine
candidates as well. The interval between the doses depends on which vaccine
you're getting and the local authorities, the government, would have made a
guideline and would inform you about when the second dose is due. Most of the
two those vaccines currently are being given between three to four weeks
between the first and the second dose. But there is some data from some
vaccines like the AstraZeneca vaccine, where delaying the second dose up to 12
weeks actually gives a better immune boost. Now, in terms of missing the second
dose or being delayed, it's important to get the second dose if the vaccine is
a two those schedule. It doesn't matter if it's early by a few days or late by
a few days or even a couple of weeks. It's important to go back and get that
second dose because the first dose actually presents this new antigen to the
immune system to prime it. And the second dose is the one that really gives a
boost to the immune system so that the antibody response, as well as T cell
mediated response, they are very strong and they also develop a memory
response, which then lasts for a long time, so that when the body sees this
antigen again, this virus protein again, it knows that it needs to react
quickly.
Vismita Gupta-Smith:
Soumya, can these two doses be
from two different manufacturers?
Dr. Soumya Swaminathan:
Again, the science is changing
and evolving and the knowledge base is growing. There are now clinical trials
ongoing in some countries that are looking at interchangeability, which means
the first dose with one vaccine and the second dose with a different vaccine,
maybe even a different platform vaccine. And immunologically, there are reasons
why this would make sense. However, at the present time, there isn't enough
data for us to recommend this type of interchangeable two dose schedules. And so for the time being, the policy advice that WHO has put out, which
is the SAGE guidelines on how to use vaccines, we've done it for the Pfizer
vaccine, the Moderna vaccine, the AstraZeneca vaccine, and currently SAGE is
reviewing the data from the other vaccines that are in the pipeline. And so, we
need to follow what's in that policy advice and for the time being, it is
recommended to have the second dose with the same vaccine as you had the first
dose.
Vismita Gupta-Smith:
Soumya, these vaccines for
COVID-19 have been developed with unprecedented speed. How have we ensured that
there are no long-term effects of these vaccines?
Dr. Soumya Swaminathan:
So, vaccine development is a
complex process, and it goes through different phases, starting from the animal studies, through the phases of clinical trials in humans. And
the last phase, the Phase III, is normally done in several thousand individuals,
tens of thousands of individuals. Half are given the placebo, half are given
the vaccine. They are followed up over a period of time, usually it's a couple
of years and then we assess the efficacy and the safety of the vaccine. Now,
because of the pandemic and the need to get these vaccines out quickly to save
lives, the duration of follow up has been a couple of
months rather than years, and emergency use authorisations have been given to
these vaccines, which means that they are still under observation. There are
still systems in place in countries that are following up people that are
recording and reporting any serious adverse events or other events. WHO has a
pharmacovigilance system that we work both with regulators and manufacturers,
but also with countries that have set up safety monitoring systems so that we
are constantly reviewing the adverse events that are being reported into the
system, doing the analysis, making correlations on whether this is just a
chance event or whether it's actually related to the vaccine and then putting
out the alerts or guidance based on that. So far we know that, you know, over
150 million doses of vaccines have been administered around the world. And so
far, the safety signals have been reassuring. There hasn't been anything
untoward that's happened with any of the vaccines that have been really rolled
out at a large scale. However, we will continue to watch this very carefully
and if there is any evidence of relationship between a vaccine and a side
effect, then that will be analysed and the guidance to countries will be
updated from time to time.
Vismita Gupta-Smith:
Thank you, Soumya. That was
WHO's Chief Scientist Dr Soumya Swaminathan. As we learn more about COVID-19,
we will continue to bring the science and the evidence to you in this series.
Until next time then. Stay safe, stay healthy and stick with science.